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Report from Comdex--Walnut Creek CDROM, FreeBSD and Slackware
Nov 20, 1998, 00 :05 UTC (67 Talkback[s]) (20162 reads)

by Dwight Johnson

Las Vegas, November 19. Situated strategically at the head of the Linux Pavilion and accessible from two aisles, the Walnut Creek CDROM booth is the first stopping place for the throngs of technophiles flooding thru.

Manning the booth, Patrick Volkerding, the original compiler of Slackware Linux, spoke to me about his product. Slackware Linux, as published by Walnut Creek on CDROM, was the first Linux distribution to achieve mass distribution and is still the favorite among many of the more experienced Linux systems administrators who are looking for a Linux that can be easily customized.

For those users who are just starting out with Linux, a distribution such as S.u.S.E. is very good because it is very easy to install, all the applications are preconfigured to work out of the box and they can be easily customized further using the YaST configuration tool.

Slackware Linux is also easy to install and use but there is far less preconfiguration. This has notable advantages for experienced Linux administrators who are often actually hampered by a lot of preconfiguration and are just as likely to tear it out in order to build their boxes to do exactly what they want done the way they want it done.

For these users, Slackware is a better choice.

When I mentioned S.u.S.E., Volkerding noted that S.u.S.E. was originally a German version of Slackware and he had provided technical support to the developers.

This was news to me and I mentioned to Patrick that I had helped S.u.S.E. with marketing their 5.3 product by editing the English language text of the S.u.S.E. users guide.

But S.u.S.E. 5.3 is vastly different from Slackware. I think of it as the Mercedes of Linux distributions, meticulously engineered with many refinements and luxury features.

Slackware is more like a race car, all performance, and the seats may be a little hard when you first sit down, but in the hands of the skilled driver, watch out.

I asked Patrick about package management. This was the main complaint leveled against Slackware that gave Red Hat its marketing impetus with its Red Hat Package Manager (RPM). The use of RPM has subsequently spread to the Caldera, S.u.S.E. and TurboLinux distributions.

Patrick said he thought this was a marketing trick used by Red Hat to proprietize its product. He showed me how to manage packages with Slackware 3.6 using ordinary text-based UNIX utilities on his laptop. I was quite impressed to see him easily get the same results that I was accustomed to getting using RPM.

If you need to upgrade applications to the latest release between distributions, you will find some inconvenience using RPM, because nearly every application is first packaged by its maintainer as a tar.gz file, the format Slackware uses natively for its packages, and it requires an experienced RPM package maintainer to build it into an RPM package. As an alternative, you may wait until an experienced RPM maintainer releases an upgrade RPM or you may learn RPM packaging yourself.

This inconvenience could be another reason to prefer Slackware.

On the opposite aisle in the Walnut Creek CDROM booth, Michael Smith was hawking FreeBSD.

With all the hoopla about Linux, FreeBSD is another product you may not take notice of when you first become interested in Linux. But if your interests take you in the direction of the greatest reliability and performance on an Intel platform, you will hear about it.

FreeBSD is the OS of preference for many of the most highly trafficked sites on the Internet today, including:

  • Altavista, their firewall
  • Hotmail, over 400 machines
  • YAHOO!, over 100 machines
  • LinkExchange, over 60 machines

Walnut Creek CDROM runs its FTP server, which is the world's largest and busiest, on FreeBSD. The Walnut Creek server downloads 750GB a day and can maintain 3,600 simultaneous connections on a single 200 MHz Pentium Pro machine with 1GB RAM and 500GB of RAID storage.

Another reason for choosing FreeBSD is the Berkeley License. This is a much less restrictive free license than the GPL and appeals to companies who want to directly integrate proprietary software with the OS kernel.

Several companies using FreeBSD in this way are:

  • Whistle Communications Corp. with their Whistle Interjet, an all-in-one solution appliance that provides e-mail, Web access and Web publishing productivity for everyone in your small office of up to 100 people
  • Global Technology Associates, Inc., makers of GTA, a firewall product imbedded in the FreeBSD kernel
  • Cybernet Systems, makers of NetMAX, an integrated Web site and network server you administer through your Web browser

FreeBSD is maintained over the Internet by a loose-knit team of 200 developers. Many of these developers are paid by their companies to participate in development of the OS.

The FreeBSD distribution on four CDROMS includes most of the same applications and utilities as a Linux distribution, including the large collection of GNU tools. What is unique is the FreeBSD kernel, its license and its development team.

An optional component to the FreeBSD system is the book, The Complete FreeBSD, 2nd Ed.. This book touts itself as an indispensible reference in 1700 pages, from first-time installation to day-to-day administration.

I only had an opportunity to glance through it in the booth, but I was impressed with its clear and concise organization. I opened to one chapter, nameserver setup, a process that has long mystified me, for a slightly deeper look and was extremely impressed with how quickly it cut to the chase of the process.

Tomorrow, November 20, will be Comdex's last day. So much to write about; so little time.


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
sorry, patrick just spread fud.  rpm is  ...   fud   
kevin lyda
Feb 1, 1999, 07:41:51
 
Hi!I already use FreeBSD, but it was ver ...   FreeBSD   
Tommy Hallgren
Nov 20, 1998, 03:46:27
 
I did bot know until I read this article ...   Hotmail (AKA Microsoft) uses FreeBSD ?   
Leigh Kennedy
Nov 20, 1998, 03:56:49
 
I agree with what you said concerning th ...   nice evaluation of slackware   
Andreas Fitzner
Nov 20, 1998, 09:09:28
 
Slackware is probably a better system fo ...   Slackware & Redhat   
schaeff
Dec 2, 1998, 15:51:33
 
GTA's firewall is called "GNAT Box"  ...   Firewall Name   
Paul Emerson
Nov 20, 1998, 14:37:52
 
just a "me too" on the redhat/slackware  ...   agree with schaeff 100%   
jim
Jan 23, 1999, 13:22:42
 
And has no plans to move to libc6.  Volk ...   Slackware is libc5   
Matt Ettus
Nov 20, 1998, 15:54:48
 
Volkerding's FUD regarding RPM is di ...   More Reason Not to run Slackware   
Jon Lasser
Nov 20, 1998, 16:17:13
 
Not sure I entirely agree w/Volkerding o ...   Slackware for me...   
jdw@alderamin
Nov 20, 1998, 16:43:59
 
Sigh, Patrick, let it die. You are not c ...   Slackware FUD, FreeBSD FUD   
shawn
Dec 14, 1998, 15:12:31
 
Patrick's remarks about RPM strike m ...   FUD & RPM   
Michael Powe
Nov 20, 1998, 17:09:18
 
I totally agree with you. I started my v ...   FreeBSD ROCKS!   
Adam
Feb 2, 1999, 16:02:26
 
It's good to see press on specific l ...   Good article.   
Joseph Chandler
Nov 20, 1998, 17:38:00
 
Slackware is the best bet for people who ...   Slackware, Redhat, SuSE   
Nathan Benson
Nov 20, 1998, 18:00:36
 
I love Debian.  http://debian.org/Debian ...   Debian!   
Zooko
Nov 20, 1998, 18:24:56
 
Would the pots please stop calling the k ...   Slackware == Stability   
Karl Stevens
Nov 20, 1998, 18:27:59
 
Nice...somebody actually talking about a ...   Slackware   
Tim Bosse
Nov 20, 1998, 18:30:45
 
FreeBSD and Linux both have different ai ...   FreeBSD FUD   
beavix
Nov 21, 1998, 00:39:01
 
Don't think so. Trouble with S.u.S.E ...   Mercedes???   
George Bonser
Nov 21, 1998, 01:46:03
 
Knowing nothing I tried to set up a slac ...   Slackware, Redhat, Suse   
john wynhausen
Nov 21, 1998, 07:42:57
 
One thing I must say is that I have ALWA ...   Red Hat earning credibility   
Alexander Stade
Nov 21, 1998, 08:39:10
 
FreeBSD is much more stable then linux.  ...   FreeBSD > Linux   
bSDRAM
Nov 21, 1998, 09:06:18
 
Patrick's gotta quit whining so much ...   What about SLS?   
Cheakamus
Nov 21, 1998, 10:34:24
 
First off, I'm a new Linux user, and ...   Usability/glibc2   
Joseph Wreschnig
Nov 21, 1998, 11:15:10
 
Get with the times.  The latest version  ...   Slackware 3.6 is libc6   
Peter Kovacs
Nov 21, 1998, 11:49:36
 
I started out using Slackware, and I may ...   RH and Slack   
Jonathan Bartlett
Nov 21, 1998, 12:05:19
 
I started out with Slackware a couple mo ...   Slackware   
Chase Hargraves
Nov 21, 1998, 12:31:35
 
Now if they could only incorporate a cvs ...   Slackware + cvsup = would be great!   
Jeff Harris
Nov 21, 1998, 13:25:36
 
Hey, guys, stop shooting at one-another! ...   Cut the crap!   
Niklas Saers
Nov 21, 1998, 14:27:06
 
To say that one is better than the other ...   Silly Comparisons   
Jeffrey Phipps
Nov 21, 1998, 18:52:50
 
SuSE is based on the Jurix distribution  ...   SuSE not based on Slackware   
Stephen White
Nov 21, 1998, 22:59:32
 
I work for Whistle. At the time we start ...   Freeware   
Archie Cobbs
Nov 22, 1998, 00:36:08
 
Great article. Get alien for Slackware ( ...   Slackware and SuSE   
Ted Sikora
Nov 22, 1998, 01:48:37
 
I don't know why ppl fight about whe ...   What do you want ?   
Kay
Nov 22, 1998, 03:18:56
 
My first Linux distro was Slackware and  ...   RPM's et al.   
Gene Wilburn
Nov 22, 1998, 09:23:11
 
All this comparing is nuts.Everyone shou ...   Soapboxes   
Peter Herttrich
Nov 24, 1998, 05:11:02
 
im a freebsd, solaris, sco, rh5 user.  i ...   *** NO SUBJECT ***   
stuart
Jan 14, 1999, 15:52:01
 
I was delivered to this world by Slackwa ...   Suse+Rht+Slack+FREEBSD   
Kevin
Jan 30, 1999, 01:36:07
 
Why is it that some of the respondents i ...   Civility   
joe
Feb 4, 1999, 04:42:02
 

     Anybody else ever notice that abou ...   FreeBSD and Linux   
M. P. Halpin
Dec 6, 1998, 11:00:35
 
Linux is an excelent piece of work.
I&#3 ...   Freebsd and Linux   
Karl Wagner
Dec 6, 1998, 11:06:15
 
I agree with Karl Wagner - Subject: Free ...   The FreeBSD & Linux comparative experience   
Jeremy McMillan
Dec 6, 1998, 12:37:28
 
Tried FreeBSD first because of the testi ...   Learn on Linux Move To FreeBSD   
Al_S
Dec 7, 1998, 08:09:27
 
I have used both Linux and FreeBSD and I ...   Linux and FreeBSD   
Mark Barbisan
Dec 7, 1998, 13:29:08
 
Enough with the sniping already.  I' ...   Both are nice   
Dave Lee
Dec 8, 1998, 17:07:27
 
Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson have rec ...   Where do you want to go today?   
James Middleton
Dec 9, 1998, 06:11:59
 
After probably using every OS on earth,  ...   FreeBSD And Linux (again?)   
geniusj
Dec 14, 1998, 09:39:56
 
The (fierce) competition between linux a ...   linux+freebsd   
ewout willemse
Dec 10, 1998, 04:24:26
 
Couple months ago I tried to install sla ...   FreeBSD is The Best for ....   
Kyky_2000
Dec 13, 1998, 20:58:57
 

Actually, there are much easier ways to ...   In response to KyKy   
geniusj
Dec 14, 1998, 09:39:56
 

Isn't it about time RPM's promp ...   RPMS - What about Dependancies?   
geniusj
Dec 14, 1998, 09:39:56
 
6 years ago I wanted to learn unix and g ...   FreeBSD, Linux and a Tar   
Travis Stevenson
Dec 15, 1998, 14:06:04
 
So...out of all of this, who wins in thi ...   Divide and conquer   
Random Liegh
Dec 15, 1998, 19:32:28
 
I use winnt, debian linux and freebsd. A ...   FreeBSD AND OR Linux (and WINNT)   
Richard Lyon
Jan 16, 1999, 18:05:32
 
I think it's interesting everyone ta ...   What FreeBSD and Linux animosity?   
adrift
Dec 17, 1998, 20:38:46
 
A note on reading articles (if you haven ...   he said, she said   
comdexjunkie
Dec 17, 1998, 20:41:29
 
I think the tone here is much improved o ...   OSen on boxen   
dwilde1
Dec 23, 1998, 09:29:10
 
I have been a Linux user since the 0.99  ...   FreeBSD v. Linux   
Thomas Crescenzi
Dec 28, 1998, 15:59:56
 
I learned my craft on Linux, in fact it  ...   FreeBSD & Linux   
Q
Dec 29, 1998, 20:03:47
 
with all this "holy o.s. war" going on - ...   linux vs. freebsd   
stan broniszewski
Jan 9, 1999, 06:45:17
 
Hi Hello, I`m a user who now is on t ...   Both Linux and FreeBSD are powerful.   
Manuel Enrique
Mar 27, 1999, 19:32:37
 
good article.
do anyone know the reason  ...   why *95* of MicroSmurf OS name?   
woojin jeon
Mar 31, 1999, 02:50:14
 
I beg you all pardon ,
I am novice in Fr ...   FreeBSD and Yugoslavia ( Kosovo)   
Alexandr Barkovskij
Apr 11, 1999, 23:43:03
 
ive played with bsd and wow it rocks  iv ...   slack and freebsd and linux   
greywolf777
Jun 16, 2003, 19:16:51
 
Yeah the package manager is called downl ...   Slackware has a package manager.   
Jake
Apr 9, 2004, 04:46:56
 
My congratulations to Theresa Elam and t ...   FreeBSD story   
Don Rose
Jan 28, 2005, 21:33:20
 
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